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    Friday, May 30th, 2008
    4:10 pm
    [greenglowgrrl]
    Hello?

    No one's posted here for over a year.

    Is everyone still messy? I'm a flylady failure myself. I've only just found messie.com.

    I watched "Stepford Wives" recently and to my horror found myself kind of wishing I could be a mindless robot with a sparkly house.

    What an insane thought. Still, as I look around me, a sane person doesn't live like this.

    Reading back through the entries here, I liked the quote about messy people not seeing the mess, but seeing the finished project.

    So I had a good look at my desk. Its a huge desk, but its not like you see much of its surface. There could be buried treasure on it, for all I know. And yes, I long to have a shining expanse of flat surface, like the day it arrived.

    So I tried seeing it exactly as it is. Whoar, what a mess. Then I tried seeing it exactly how it is but with the novel sitting precariously on top of one pile of objects vanished. Messy desk without a book. Messy desk without a book. In the end I grinned and got up and put it on the bookshelf. Magic!

    That was so much fun I started zapping coffee cups. I live alone. In under a minute I banished seven dirty cups. I have too much washing up to fit in the sink so I've stuffed them in the laundry tub and left them to soak. Later, I hope to go look at the mess in the laundry tub and imagine it without one item. Last time I got a clear kitchen by filling the laundry tub with unwashed dishes they sat there for quite some time. Um.. over a week.

    I have now found buried treasure on the desk, after zapping a bit more stuff. I was only wishing I had a bottle of afterdinner mints yesterday. Magic! I am rewarding myself.

    My desk is still horrifically messy, but its better than it was yesterday. I've found this community useful already! Thanks!
    Monday, May 1st, 2006
    11:22 pm
    [soozun]
    Messies Anonymous
    Someone just told me about Sandra Felton's books and Web site, "Messies Anonymous". (http://www.messies.com/)
    Has anyone found her books and program to be helpful? Some of the lingo and ideas sounds familiar to Flylady. But Messies Anon uses a 12 step program which is an interesting idea in the sense that you could apply addiction stuff to hoarding behaviors.
    Thursday, April 20th, 2006
    9:34 am
    [soozun]
    America's Biggest Pack Rat?
    I just happened to get this email accouncement from DIY network for American pack rats to apply to win a chance to be on a t.v. show. I guess they send in an expert to help you stop being a pack rat and start being an unpacked rat. Would you ever in a million years enter a contest to be deemed "America's Biggest Pack Rat"?

    http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/pac_ctnt/text/0,2019,DIY_14161_44387,00.html
    2:28 am
    [soozun]
    a slice of a messy life
    Today started with a bang. My husband threw my magazine collection on the living room floor. These were all the magazines my mom subscribed me to, and they had been accumulating more and more every month by the side of the toilet. So today was the day when my husband said "enough is enough", and I was forced to face the dreaded magazine collection. You see, I can't just throw away magazines. No. Before I throw them away, I have to go back and clip out all the interesting articles and pictures of stuff I want to buy or admire, all those things that I had seen and wanted to save when flipping through the magazines for the previous half a year or so. And also, you guessed it, I have to clip off my name and address label from the front cover. It took me about 2 hours and all the while I kept thinking, "Why can't I just throw these magazines away and just enjoy the morning like a normal person?"

    Then I did something even I couldn't have predicted. I saved those bits of cut-out magazine covers that have my name and address on them. Normally I just tear them up or run them through the shredder, but this time I thought it would be funny to save them and tape them to my outgoing mail, like a sort of trashy substitute for those address labels that people actually order and pay money for. I was very amused by the one that said, "Smith family or current resident". I will have to save that one for a special letter sent to someone who will see the humor in it. I suppose that seeing the humor in my situation just encourages me in wasting my life in senseless tasks.
    Tuesday, April 18th, 2006
    4:19 pm
    [soozun]
    thinking about my problem, and an interesting article on hoarding
    Hi everyone. I have recently begun to think about my problems with clutter and general messiness. I think I have a lot of traits of hoarding but just haven't gotten to a point where things are totally out of control. I thought I would share an interesting article that I found online that describes certain traits of a hoarder. I hadn't heard some of these before, although I have read up on the subject in the past. I understand hoarding is thought to be a form of OCD.

    Here's the direct link to the article, and in the cut below, I share the article as quoted in my LJ.
    http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-02-18-hoarding-usat_x.htm

    My recent LJ entry with Hoarding articleCollapse )

    For the past 2 or 3 years, I have been fighting the good fight against the foul demon of hoarding. But it's really hard and kind of demoralizing. I realized recently that I have donated probably between 4 and 6 truckloads of prime junk, yet still I find piles of junk growing in certain spots in my house, like under the kitchen table, against my bed, and all around my recliner.

    How do you cope with the pain of facing that you have a problem with hoarding? What makes it ever feel OK to know you are messy even though you are trying so hard to not be? I find it distasteful to think that everyday for the rest of my life, I have to constantly pick up junk and put it away. Or else, I have to always put things away after I use them, implying that I will know what I am done using something!
    Thursday, January 12th, 2006
    9:05 am
    [crazykitties03]
    Friday, September 2nd, 2005
    12:42 pm
    [ms_hecubus]
    Progress at last!
    This past week I removed the clutter (finally) from my living room. I decided that I had to face facts and I wasn't going to get any actual cleaning done until things were out of my way. However, I had a guest coming and didn't have time to properly organize. Instead, I went to the office supply store and bought banker's boxes. Each one was labelled, books, CDs, DVDs, etc. and the proper item was stored in it. Yes, I have a pile of boxes now, but I also had open surfaces and floor space. I was able to dust (a little) and sweep up the accumulated pet hair. Now I'll be able to pick a project and unpack the boxes as I go. I won't have to feel overwhelmed by trying to organize everything at once.

    I really recommend this method for extreme messies. I know, in a way, it seems like I'm only half done with my project, but being able to look around a room and see the floor really does feel good. I feel like I've accomplished something because I have a clean base to start from and can now concentrate on one area at a time.
    Wednesday, July 27th, 2005
    10:28 am
    [juliebean]
    Well, I'm kind of taking a 'flylady' approach to my goals. A little bit at a time. So since I want a bit of accountability, here goes:

    I am going to try and set 4 goals (two morning and two night) for the next month.

    Each morning before I leave, I will:

    Make beds
    Clean off the coffee table

    Each night before I go to bed, I will:

    Make sure clothes are in hamper or hung up
    Clean out kitchen sink

    I have chosen these goals because I think they will make the biggest visual impact and it should help me to stay on track.

    xposted to my personal journal

    Current Mood: determined
    Monday, July 11th, 2005
    3:41 pm
    [crazykitties03]
    Half hours 2, 3 and 4(almost)
    Well, half hours 2,3 and 4 went something like this:

    More dishes, cleaned around the cats' bowls, washed the bowls themselves, cleaned their mat, swept up about a week's worth of cat food and replaced the whole set up (it looks much better). I swept the kitchen floor, wiped down the counters, cleaned out the fridge and threw out a bunch of old papers, mail, etc. Also, I straightened up in the living room, rearranged several drawers in the kitchen and re-organized one of the cupboards. I wanted to do some laundry, but my ankle is bothering me, so the thought of all those stairs was not really appealing. I didn't quite use up all of half hour #4 (they were kind of all jumbled together), so I have about 10 minutes of that to make up for. I'll be glad to have all the dishes that have been in storage rinsed out and put away. Tonight, I want to clean up the bathroom. It's not bad, but it needs to be cleaned and swept. I'll try out my free bathtub scrubber!

    Current Mood: Tummy ache
    11:10 am
    [crazykitties03]
    Friday, July 8th, 2005
    3:28 pm
    [crazykitties03]
    First 30 minutes
    Well, I made myself start dishes last night. I don't have that many because it's just me, so I run out of clean dishes very quickly if I don't wash them right away. That took up my whole 30 minutes last night. I don't know what I'll get accomplished tonight considering that I went for a walk at lunch and I couldn't sleep last night. I'm very tired out today. Also, it's storming and storms really relax me and make me sleepy. So, if I don't do the 30 minutes today, I'll tack it on to tomorrow.

    Current Mood: lethargic
    Thursday, July 7th, 2005
    2:46 pm
    [crazykitties03]
    You mean I have to actually DO something???
    Ok, last night my sister asked me when I'm coming back for more crap. She said no pressure. However, it totally freaked me out. I can't even deal with the stuff I have now. Part of it is that I don't have storage solutions, but how can I set up storage solutions when I don't know what I have? YIKES. I'm screwed. Also, how can I get anything cleaned and organized when I sit on my butt and watch TV from the time I get home until the time I go to bed? So, I realized that I need to go back to goal setting. So, here goes:

    TV off until 8 (I have tried this before and it worked out quite well when I actually did it).

    An average of half an hour of cleaning/organizing every day. I can do this. It's not that long. I can do it. Right? I don't want to. That's the problem. How do I make myself? I feel like if I have to run an errand after work (which I often do) and I've had a bad day at work (if? hahaha), then I should be able to relax. Of course, 5 straight hours of relaxing every day, may be excessive. It's the same reason I am not losing weight because I don't make myself do what I know I should be doing.

    Ok, I am going to do this. I try to give myself a little leeway by making the 30 minutes a day an average. That way if I only do 20 minutes one day, I can make it up the next day.

    I'm going to start posting here everyday with my successes and failures. Maybe that will help. Once I start to see some results, perhaps I will get some momentum.

    Current Mood: anxious
    12:50 pm
    [juliebean]
    Introduction
    Hi! My name is Julie, and yes, I'm a Messie. I've been on a lifetime search for organization amid the clutter.

    Currently on my bookshelf (or, you know, thrown in the general direction of the bookshelf, or hiding under my bed or whatever):

    Get Your Act Together
    Sink Reflections
    Organizing for Dummies
    Outwitting Clutter
    The New Messies Manual
    Organizing from the Inside Out
    Cut the Clutter and Store the Stuff
    Let Go of Clutter

    And these are just the ones that I can think of off of the top of my head - because I'm writing this at work, not home. I guess that what I'm worried about is that I KNOW how to clean - it's just a problem of DOING it. Kind of like losing weight. I know more about nutrition that most people I know, yet I'm easily over 75 pounds overweight.

    I think that my main problem is that I have a problem with putting off the uncomfortable. Even when I know that it will make things worse in the long run, I tend to avoid anything unpleasant in the short term. I have a very hard time saying no. Does anyone else have that problem?

    But I really need to get past that. My mess isn't bringing me any joy. (and my weight and financial issues aren't either). My previous roommate is moving back in with me and I really need to try again to streamline my house. She moved out before primarily because of my mess. We're going to try to make it work again - it helps us both out financially. So I need to start work ASAP.

    Does anybody have any tips that specifically deal with mind-tricks to avoid procrastination?

    Current Mood: hopeful
    1:23 pm
    [ms_hecubus]
    Yard Work
    I decided to use the Mount Vernon method to work in my back yard. I spent an hour pulling weeds and, when I was done, was able to look at a clear section. Man, it felt good!

    I've also cleaned off the dining room table, to a degree. All of the magazines, print outs and misc. junk is gone. All that is left are things that need to be put away. There were so many times I hesitates and thought "I should keep this just in case", but pitched it anyway. Now I can't even remember what those things were.

    My junk mail is still stacked up. I got half of the stack done, but lost focus and it piled up again. I need to get it done and start sorting the mail as soon as I bring it in. It's the only way I'm going to be sure I won't die in an avalanch of circulars.
    Tuesday, June 14th, 2005
    3:15 pm
    [ms_hecubus]
    My goal for today
    This evening I will spend, at least, one hour working on my living room. I will attack the stack of mail with determination and not save anything to be read later, it's now or never!

    Now, I cross my fingers for much, much cooler temperatures this evening!
    Monday, June 13th, 2005
    8:03 pm
    [virgoearthgirl]
    HAD TO JOIN
    I thought I was the only *adult* who had piles of 'stuff' in my bedroom to literally climb over somedays. It's atrocious!! I don't even let my best friend in my room when she comes over. The door stays closed at all times.

    The rest of the apartment is spacious and kept clean. It's just that my bedroom is my 'let it all go' room and I have a "WHO CARES???" attitude about it.

    My name is Tammy and I'm a Messie.
    Rest of this community in unison --> "HI TAMMY!!!" :p

    EDIT: OK, so the rest of the apartment IS spacious and kinda clean... except for the dining room table. It has turned into a desk/place to pile papers, pens, journals, artsy things, etc. **sigh**
    2:59 pm
    [ms_hecubus]
    Visual vs. Mental
    The book I'm reading points out that good housekeepers tend to be very visually motivated. They see the mess and have to clean it. Many messy people lean toward the mental side and see completed project in their head.

    Honestly, I can see this in myself. I know what my house will look like when I finally get organized, when I finally get the walls painted, when I'm finally DONE. I don't even see my mess and, when I do, it shocks me. I look at my house through another's eyes and I want to cry. I know that my mess isn't right, but, 99% of the time, I don't know it's there.

    Tomorrow I start using what the book calls "The Mount Vernon Method". I'll start at my front door and move my way around the room until it's done. I have a feeling that I might need more than one storage box because I have so many books, but I will follow the method and not worry about putting them away until I get to the library. This means I have to spend some time each day seeing the mess. Yikes!
    2:17 pm
    [ms_hecubus]
    From "How Not to be a Messie"
    We all know them. They are the people who never seem to get control of their housework and their time, the type who need all day to accomplish nothing. They live in dread of opening a closet door, for fear they will be buried under an avalanche of canned goods, flashlight batteries, tissue boxes, and stockings with only one run that might come in handy someday for something. (Well, you never know.)

    A casual visitor to the home of such a person would be in constant danger of tripping over roller skates, knocking piles of paper to the floor, and stepping on a ten-year-old's pet frog.

    But a casual visitor is not likely to get into this person's home. She won't even invite her best friend - not with the house in such a mess.

    This type of housekeeper - if that is not too strong a term for a person whose house appears to keep her - has a name. She is known as a "Messie".
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